With the Supreme Court poised to overturn Roe v Wade this month, Dan speaks with Destiny Herndon-De La Rosa of New Wave Feminists, a pro-life organization focused on addressing the social and economic inequalities that make motherhood in America so difficult.

In this conversation, we explore the nuances behind an issue so often painted in black and white, and learn how the experiences of many women are dismissed or erased in America's all-or-nothing debate over abortion.

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